Meninism – the strange phenomenon

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“Meninism is a mockery of feminism and proves that we can’t request equality without white men making everything about themselves.” -urbandictionary.com

Disclaimer: I don’t believe in meninism which trash-talks feminist issues or disregards women’ struggles. I do not support meninism which portrays women as whiney hormone-driven beings who are simply making a noise for the sake of it. Nor do I support meninism which is antagonistic for the mere fact that it is frustrated by male-bashing feminists. Equally, I do not support meninism which jumps the queue and says “we matter too” before feminists can even get their points across or that which screams “our issue are more important”.

What is the point of launching a meninist campaign if not to overshadow feminism, most people ask. Now as a young woman, I cannot claim to be a spokesperson for the meninist campaign as one who is directly impacted by such related issues. I can only listen to their (legitimate) concerns and sympathise with them. I, as a woman, cannot claim to advocate only for the meninist issues I deem legitimate, just as feminists do not need men to tell them what causes are worth protesting about, because they, the women, experience these problems, not men.

I like to think of myself as an egalitarian. Feminism is meant to be a reinforcing arm of egalitarianism and that’s where I think a lot of spiteful meninists get it wrong. Feminism is not meant to depict women as superior to men or entitled to affirmative action which directly oppresses men by making them a means to an end – in this instance, restoring justice to women. Sure, our world needs a lot of readjusting and it is not going to be all that comfortable for men, so they need to be prepared for that discomfort and “woman-up”. I do believe that there are terrible injustices that men are subjected to, perhaps not as severe as those of women – and I say this with great apprehension.

True there are meninists who are simply retaliating to the attacks on men by so-called feminists or simply angry feminists. On this topic, I have two responses. Fisrtly, There are feminists who go the extra mile and end up sounding like haters of all men, which would explain why men get offended. Generalisations about people based on individual (or more) experiences usually get people on the defensive regardless of whether they are men or not. For example people get uncomfortable if upon seeing a black female yelling across the road at a friend, a white female were to mutter “Gosh, black people.”  Similarly if a woman sees a rape headline and yells, “Freaking men and their dog-like tendencies!” men are bound to react negatively and yes, perhaps we feminists will point out that “this isn’t about you and you being offended – were you raped?!” And we’ll feel justified in behaving this way. But for the man who sympathises with feminists this is yet another, “You’re a part of the problem. We don’t need men so go drink a beer and go dominate elsewhere,” kind of reaction which only further alienates men from the cause.

Secondly, there are feminists who are simply angry. Their concern is not to be deliberately hateful to men or to avenge the injustices of women all over the world by stepping on as many toes as possible. When I come across this kind of feminist, I usually tell myself “but they have every reason and right to be angry”. And while anger can be a great fuel for revolutionary causes, I do not believe however, that anger is always beneficial. Many feminists will disagree with me here and that’s cool, Biko and Sobukwe were different and so was Martin Luther King from Newton and Seale, although they shared the same concerns and causes. Do I suppose that meninists tell these women to keep calm and give them peaceful protesting tips as opposed to retaliating, then? No, because that only generates more bitterness.

So what is it that I think about meninists? Are they simply “oppressed” white guys that think feminism is a threat to their masculinity? I think there certainly are meninists of this sort but not all of them are and I do not believe that this is the attitude on which the campaign was founded. I believe it was founded by people who recognised this as a crucial time of social transformation with more people standing up for their muted causes to be heard and did not want to be left out.

And lastly, to answer this question, “If a female wears a meninist shirt, what are her morals as a woman? Does she know what she’s representing..?” I say yes. I do not speak for all women-meninists but I would be representing the notion of allowing all people to stand for their cause – not just a single group. I believe in egalitarianism which means, all are equal; all voices are equal and all experiences are valid.

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So this showed up on my facebook this morning. How ironic is it that, in their attempt to erase men, they also erased trans women and classified gender as being dependent on genitalia. – realjusticewarrior

We all NEED meninism to stand up against the warped definitions and features of manhood, fragile masculinity because these fundamental problems are some of the root causes of this obsession to subjugate women to compensate for what’s lacking in themselves.

 

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2 thoughts on “Meninism – the strange phenomenon

  1. > feminists do not need men to tell them what causes are worth protesting about, because they, the women, experience these problems, not men.

    So you’re saying when it comes to ‘feminist issues’ men’s input is not welcome, or at least not considered valid or necessary. Then, by your logic (and I’m not arguing with it), feminism cannot claim to be about ‘gender equality’ or even ‘gender issues’, or even ‘women’s issues’. Feminism is only about those issues considered worthy by feminists (who represent only 20% of women) and only they have the authority to define does is and does qualify as a valid issue.

    We could boil it down to the following guide.

    ‘GENDER equality’/ ‘GENDER issues’ = input from men and women (because both men and women are gendered beings, obviously)

    ‘WOMEN’S issues’ = input from women including non feminist and anti feminist women. Feminist women make up only about 20% of the group ‘women’ and of the 80% of women who don’t identify as feminist many vehemently reject feminist ideology, because IN THEIR EXPERIENCE as women they are not systematically oppressed by ‘the patriarchy’ and in THEIR CONSIDERED OPINION as women feminism is a destructive cult spreading lies.

    (note: if only women have authority to speak about women’s issues, it is only fair to say that only men have authority to speak about men’s issues – thus in this scheme women/ feminist women would have no authority to comment on men’s issues)

    ‘FEMINIST issues’ = input from feminists only, who make up only about 20% of women.

    > I like to think of myself as an egalitarian. Feminism is meant to be a reinforcing arm of egalitarianism

    No. That is like saying the Catholic Church is meant to be the enforcing arm of moral virtue. Feminism (like the Catholic Church) is a cult, by virtue of the fact that it fulfils all the criteria associated with a cult.

    > Feminism is not meant to depict women as superior to men or entitled to affirmative action which directly oppresses men by making them a means to an end

    Then feminists are doing feminism wrong, because that is what feminism does. Feminism’s ‘patriarchy theory’ defines men as systematic oppressors of their own mothers, sisters, daughters, wives and work colleagues (which defines men as sociopaths), and feminism defines women as innocent victims, which – on a scale of ‘not being a sociopathic oppressor’ – automatically places women ABOVE men. Meanwhile, on a scale of power, cunning, durability, invulnerability, agency and prowess feminists place men ABOVE women.

    > restoring justice to women.

    Feminists must first prove systematic injustice at the hands of men. Life in the past sure was different, it was harsh, it was brutal, it was primitive and it was unfair. However, this was true for men, women, children and animals….. and not just for women alone.

    > Sure, our world needs a lot of readjusting and it is not going to be all that comfortable for men, so they need to be prepared for that discomfort and “woman-up”.

    Many of the complaints of feminists are the RESULT of women gaining equality with men and as a result experiencing a STEP DOWN in terms of privilege (not a step up), and then getting confused and thinking they are being oppressed.

    If we measure privilege in terms of being protected from the big bad world of adults (some of whom say hurtful things), not having to take responsibility, not having to earn a living or support others financially, not having to think pro actively about your personal safety etc etc then the modern woman has LOST these privileges relative to her female ancestors. These are all things which men have been expected to endure for centuries. Now women too. Some women don’t like it (eg feminists).

    Patriarchy placed women at the heart of society and gave men the task of protecting and providing for women – for the sake of the children. This protection was given to women and children because life at the time (ie throughout most of human history) was such a harsh and brutal existence, due to the lack of technology (no electricity, no cars, no phones, no supermarkets, no indoor plumbing, no decent medicine, no plastics, no central heating, no modern offices and very few jobs that did not require manual labour).

    Today most people live in cites and earn a living doing comfortable and safe non-manual labour jobs in offices (or their equivalent). This means women no longer really need any special treatment, relative to men. The remaining brutal and dangerous manual labour jobs are still done by nice strong rugged men, anyway (which is why 95% of workplace deaths are men).

    Most normal women enjoy the liberating effects of modern technology and accept their new role as equal to men, which includes not demanding special treatment and free resources all the time just because they have vaginas and are less physically strong and durable relative to men. It is really only feminists who still want society to value women JUST BECAUSE they are women (“because vagina”).

    Feminists are (ironically) the 20% of women who still cling to….. patriarchy. Feminism is patriarchy rebranded, minus the concern for the welfare of children. Patriarchy’s “women and children first” has been rebranded to feminism’s “He for She”. Modern 3rd wave feminists are the LEAST progressive demographic in society, not the most progressive.

    > I do believe that there are terrible injustices that men are subjected to, perhaps not as severe as those of women – and I say this with great apprehension.

    As a society which is still largely influenced by traditional (‘patriarchal’) gender roles and gender identity it is almost impossible to SEE the injustices men have had to suffer, or still suffer today. To see them we really have to switch the genders. For example, imagine if women had been the ones expected to build the roads, mine the resources out of the ground, fight the wars, trawl the seas, plough the fields etc while men got to stay in the relative comfort and safety of the home. Imagine if men had worn fine fabrics and frivolous fashions, while women wore simple scratchy utilitarian clothes (as befitting their status as providers and protectors of men). Imagine if women had been granted the right to vote, but on the condition they fight wars for the state…. then a few decades later some male activists disrupted a sporting event (domestic terrorism) and eventually got the right to vote WITHOUT any obligation to do anything. For the next century men could vote for wars and have women as young as 18 forced (under threat of caging or even being shot on the spot) to march into a hail of machine gun fire and fight those wars on behalf of men. Millions of young women died this way, screaming in agony on muddy battlefields, while the men got to stay at home. Even today some men still complain about being “chained to the kitchen sink” as if being exempt from fighting wars and doing manual labour was somehow ‘oppression’. These men call their century of special male voting privileges and exemption from wars ‘a triumph of gender equality’ and they define women as ‘privileged oppressors’. A man in a white linen suit who is a multi millionaire actor gets to address the UN and demand women serve men (She for He) and this is touted as another triumph for ‘gender equality’. etc etc etc…

    Imagine a world in which women have LESS legal rights than men but somehow men are able to define men as victims and women as the privilege oppressors.

    (today men have less legal rights than women – a rather annoying fact that feminists try to sweep under the rug)

    > There are feminists who go the extra mile and end up sounding like haters of all men, which would explain why men get offended.

    Feminist ideology (‘patriarchy theory’ et al) is inherently anti men. The reason why advocates of men’s human rights cannot get heard, and are likely to be branded either crybabies or terrorists is because of feminist propaganda. The KKK do not contain a minority who are offensive to blacks, and feminism is the same when it comes to men. The ideology is offensive from the outset.

    > if a woman sees a rape headline and yells, “Freaking men and their dog-like tendencies!” men are bound to react negatively

    And so too would any women with any sense of empathy and morality, who views men as human beings in their own right.

    > we feminists will point out that “this isn’t about you and you being offended – were you raped?!”

    Male rape is on a par with female rape. The only reason why ‘rape’ is associated with female victims is because feminists have infiltrated academia, the justice system, the media, politics in order to control the narrative. Feminism promotes ‘rape culture’ in order to demonise men and gain more sympathy and special treatment for feminists based on the perception that they are victims. The last three ‘viral’ rape cases which feminists trumpeted all over the internet to promote their ‘rape culture’ narrative turned out to be false rape accusations. Feminism IS rape culture.

    > Secondly, there are feminists who are simply angry.

    There are MRA’s who are simply angry too. Meninism is one way to convert anger into satire – which is one of the purposes of satire (to convert anger into something more productive).

    Unlike meninists, feminists do not satirise MRA’s actual complaints, or issues or demands for rights, because they are not trivial and so cannot really be satirised. It’s hard to satirise a man (or woman) campaigning for males to have the right to genital integrity or equal rights to women in law, without looking like a female supremacist (and a dick) . So instead feminists tend to attack the character of MRA’s (ad homimen). Stupid neckbeard, crybaby, male tears, rapey, privileged scum etc.

    > Their concern is not to be deliberately hateful to men or to avenge the injustices of women all over the world by stepping on as many toes as possible. When I come across this kind of feminist, I usually tell myself “but they have every reason and right to be angry”.

    No more so than men do…. unless you think the injustices suffered by men are somehow less important, or that men are somehow better equipped to suffer hardships and injustices than women are (which is a very ‘patriarchal’ view of men).

    > And while anger can be a great fuel for revolutionary causes, I do not believe however, that anger is always beneficial.

    There is ‘blue flame’ anger and ‘red flame’ anger. Blue flame anger is a motivator of action, red flame anger is just a temper tantrum – a demand for attention and appeasement.

    > So what is it that I think about meninists? Are they simply “oppressed” white guys that think feminism is a threat to their masculinity?

    Feminism does not threaten their masculinity, it criminalises it, demonises it, belittles it and trivialises it. Most of all feminists define men as being a UTILITY for the benefit of feminists – which is a very traditional ‘patriarchal’ view of men.

    When it serves feminists’ interests for men to be subservient wimps, feminists demand men be that way. When it serves feminists’ interests for men to be strong, heroic, dutiful and hard working, feminists demand men be that way. And when it serves feminists’ interests for men to be aggressive, violent and immoral thugs, feminists demand men be that way too.

    If all men were absolutely moral, absolutely non coercive and absolutely non violent – with a total respect for human rights – then feminists would have to resort to ASKING for help, rather than demanding it using guns, via the state.

    Feminists don’t ‘hate’ men any more than farmers ‘hated’ the horses they worked to death ploughing their fields. To hate implies to view as equal. Feminists view men as either below women or above women – depending on what how they want men to behave at any given moment.

    Feminism is in essence a Resource Acquisition Strategy. In feminist’s eyes men are a utility (like a horse or a slave). Not just in the practical sense, but also in a political sense. Feminists like to define men in a negative way in order to claim victimhood as women, and therefore lay claim to the majority of tax funded welfare and other social programs which are available as bribes to whoever can drum up enough votes.

    Every time feminists demand free stuff and special treatment from the state they are demanding armed men in blue costumes force everyone else to pay for and implement those things for feminists – under threat of caging or shooting. Morally speaking this is no different to a society where feminists roamed the streets in gangs pointing guns at everyone and demanding money and special treatment directly. Feminism is essentially gang culture, but under the influence of oestrogen, rather than testosterone.

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    • Hi there, I’d firstly like to thank you for taking the time to read my blog and more importantly, expressing your views, you certainly put quite an effort into it. I wish I could comment on every one of your responses but I’m going to keep it short and hope it makes you reconsider a few things.

      Firstly, I think the first deduction you made was the most disconcerting for me, and that is the assumption that men cannot speak or give input on feminist issues. I disagree with this and you can read my other posts on feminism to see my stance on this. What I mean is that men’s input is very welcome in these discussions, only they do not have the power to say which grievances are valid or invalid as has been happening. Also, I usually roll my eyes at the mention of a ‘feminist ideology’. My feminism has one purpose and characteristic, to do away with ill-treatment, discrimination and marginalisation and hate towards women all over the world.
      The second troubling remark you made was that of feminism being a gang culture and and essentially a big whoo-haa about nothing. And I could sense this sentiment throughout your comments. Just one thought one this: Assuming you don’t see the relevance of feminism, I understand why you might view it as you do. A lot of people have turned it into debates about everything except what it’s really about. And really that’s everyone’s fault not just misguided angry feminists.

      I must add though, I find your suggestion that women aren’t all that oppressed as they claim through your analogy of reversed roles is rather insulting. Before we even get to the struggle for universal suffrage (which you seem to think isn’t big deal), there are women who are subjected to honor killings- read “Killing Honor” by Bali Rai- women who are taught that domestic abuse is the burden women were born to bear- watch Tribal Wives on BBC or spend a day in a random African household- there are boys the age of 13 in the DRC and many other countries who are taught it’s okay to rape because that’s what women are for and they can’t do anything about it -read Half the Sky- there are outrageous cases of female infanticide simply because girls aren’t as smart or hard-working or simply valuable. In these countries one’s anatomy doesn’t just mean the world has expectations of you and a list of jobs you can and can’t do and a wage range of what you may or may not earn despite your qualifications, it means life or death. There are women who are laughed at and have acid thrown in their faces if they report rape, even worse they are blamed for the rapes.

      And your point about men leading us out of our primitive ways by the sweat of their brow sounds a bit like, men have been doing all the real work, so what if you can’t vote, what have women done- were you forced to go to war? Read up on who had to do the back-breaking labour in human’s transition from pastoralism to the neolithic revolution and the health repercussions that followed for decades to follow. Now tell me feminism is pointless again.

      See that’s the problem with the world, we let minor bickering distract us from the real issues at hand and end up losing faith in our causes leaving millions at the mercy of these traditions.

      I cannot respect anyone who endorses the use of meninism as satire- particularly rape jokes. I don’t care what your frustrations are with feminists but there is a line. If you completely disagree with everything I just said and still think the feminist cause is a joke or that we don’t need feminism for whatever reasons, I’ll ask that the one thing you take out of this blog is the suggestion that you purchase a copy of “Half the Sky” by Nicholas D. Kristof and Sheryl Wudunn. Feel free to speak to me about it my email is guguresha@outlook.com and I would love to hear your thoughts and have a stimulating conversation about your change of mind or not if there is none.

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